AFI 2012

seven

Member
Could anyone accepted or rejected share your portfolio if you don't mind?Vemio,youtube link or just discription of your work would be OK.
 

Miguel Angel

New Member
Definitely I don't know what kind of rules they follow in order to accept or reject people.. it's very weird.

So, just to follow the previous replies.

I applied to Cinematography.

My recommenders:
- Emmanuel Lubezki
- Daniel Aranyo
- Iñarritu
- Pedro Almodovar

People who talk about me at AFI:
- Janusz Kaminski
- Rodrigo Prieto

My CV:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2561287/

The shortfilms I sent:

No Existe El Adios
http://fibabc.abc.es/videos/existe-adios-1047.html

(I got two nominations and 1 award for this job)

Stringless (work in progress)
https://vimeo.com/33984087

I sent a photographic portfolio with almost 20 pics too.

Also I got the Fulbright Scholarship in Spain and I have learnt English from the scratch in one year and some months just to go to AFI, in fact, I'm still learning :D.

My narrative statement is great, I put my heart and my mind on it and everybody who read it loved it.

However I was rejected without the chance of an interview.

Of course I'm going to talk with them, because it's inexplicable and everybody (even my recommenders) can't believe it.

Anyway, it's not the end of the world, if I'm not accepted this year, I will send my application in December again and again and again till I'm accepted.

My second option is TISCH in NY and my third one is NFTS in London, not for this year though so I don't know if Fulbright will keep my scholarship for next year or I will have to pay the full cost of tuition.


Cheers!.
 
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^ If you did not get accepted, then definitely I have lost my hope. You have IMDB credits, and all the essentials to get accepted. I wonder, what undergraduate school did you go to?

Mike
 

Miguel Angel

New Member
Well, I didn't go to any film school or university so that means that I don't have a bachelor and since that is not important in AFI I think that that is not an issue since they are looking for people with passion or at least I thought so.

I don't think that Imdb credits are important either so who knows!.

Best!.
 
In order for you to enroll for a Master's degree you NEED an undergraduate degree. BA.BS. or BFA.

So, that's why I assume you were not considered. I do recommended calling, I may be wrong.

Mike
 

Mike_V

Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by Filmikey@aol.com:
In order for you to enroll for a Master's degree you NEED an undergraduate degree. BA.BS. or BFA.

So, that's why I assume you were not considered. I do recommended calling, I may be wrong.

Mike
^-- what he said. You can't get a masters if you don't have a bachelor's of some sort.
 

cinema334

New Member
Originally posted by Miguel Angel:
Definitely I don't know what kind of rules they follow in order to accept or reject people.. it's very weird.

So, just to follow the previous replies.

I applied to Cinematography.

My recommenders:
- Emmanuel Lubezki
- Daniel Aranyo
- Iñarritu
- Pedro Almodovar

People who talk about me at AFI:
- Janusz Kaminski
- Rodrigo Prieto

My CV:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2561287/

The shortfilms I sent:

No Existe El Adios
http://fibabc.abc.es/videos/existe-adios-1047.html

(I got two nominations and 1 award for this job)

Stringless (work in progress)
https://vimeo.com/33984087

I sent a photographic portfolio with almost 20 pics too.

Also I got the Fulbright Scholarship in Spain and I have learnt English from the scratch in one year and some months just to go to AFI, in fact, I'm still learning :D.

My narrative statement is great, I put my heart and my mind on it and everybody who read it loved it.

However I was rejected without the chance of an interview.

Of course I'm going to talk with them, because it's inexplicable and everybody (even my recommenders) can't believe it.

Anyway, it's not the end of the world, if I'm not accepted this year, I will send my application in December again and again and again till I'm accepted.

My second option is TISCH in NY and my third one is NFTS in London, not for this year though so I don't know if Fulbright will keep my scholarship for next year or I will have to pay the full cost of tuition.


Cheers!.
clearly you have a huge ego. one reason you may have been rejected. I was accepted and will mention what my portfolio and application consisted of.

I have two undergraduate degrees. my short film was directed, shot and written by myself (15 mins, about $10k)and has played in festivals across the country where I won awards. I was accepted at NYU, Cal arts, USC and two Ivy League schools for unrelated programs of study (literature). my gpa was around 3.7 and i scored in the 97% percentile of gre test takers. i think maybe because you don't have an undergraduate degree, you werent considered. the video you posted is mediocre at best, to be honest, and having famous people write for you doesn't help if you don't have the chops. please get a reality check... afi DOES look at your application carefully. i'm sure you can make a great film someday, or even now. but if you felt queasy reading my list of 'accomplishments' and how egotistical i sounded, maybe you can imagine the way others feel when they look at your statement of purpose or your forum posts.
 
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Brice88

Member
Originally posted by Filmikey@aol.com:
In order for you to enroll for a Master's degree you NEED an undergraduate degree. BA.BS. or BFA.

So, that's why I assume you were not considered. I do recommended calling, I may be wrong.

Mike
While you do need an undergraduate degree for an MFA, you can still be accepted at AFI without having attended college. This is the case with several of my classmates, and while they won't receive the degree (it will be a certificate of completion) they otherwise have all the same access the rest of us do.

That being said, I am baffled how Miguel Angel didn't even get an interview. I didn't watch his films but, between his CV and those references, I would think as long as he displayed the slightest competence when it comes to craft that he would be a shoo-in.
 

Willi

Member
You do not need an undergrad degree to attend AFI. However, without one you will only receive a certificate and not a MFA.
 

Miguel Angel

New Member
Cinema334
Do I have a great ego?, I don't think so!.
AFI focus is on having passion and they measure the effort not the skills because they are the guys who are going to teach you so you don't need the skills at all.
I know a lot of people who were wondering between directing and cinematography at AFI and nowadays they are awesome cinematographers.

I was just answering the question who another guy asked so that is what I sent, are they mediocre? probably!, that's the reason I want to go to school if I knew everything about photography why should I go to a school?.

If you were accepted that's great, isn't it? :D, if, finally, I'm accepted you will see how wrong you are about egos and that stuff :D.

On the other hand I don't know what a GPA or a GRE is :D.

SOmetimes, if you start working in cinema from the beginning of the ladder, as I did, that means that you don't have ego at all, in fact, do you know how many years I made coffee for people while working in movies?, and I'm really happy about that because it taught me a lot of things, and to be egotistical is not one of them.. I don't know how it works in USA, as a camera intern, at least in Europe, you have to look after your camera crew in every single moment and you have to work harder than them ^^, and, to be frank, when you are working the only thing you don't want to have is ego.

Honestly, my recommenders are not famous people they are people who I worked with and who taught me a lot of really good things, just that, I'm not guilty of having worked (do you say so?) with them!.

And as I said before, if you reckon that I sounded egotistical read carefully because you missunderstodd it ;).
Moreover, the fact I'm posting under my real name is one of the things you should see as "not egotistical" :D.

By the way, $10.000 sounds pretty much for a 15mins 16mm film, did you use the Complete16 webpage? because it might have saved a lot of money!, it is such a wonderful webpage!!.

Brice88 is right you don't need an undergraduate degree, AFI is one of the schools they don't need it.


Cheers!.
 
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freakyfreddy

Active Member
GPA is a grade point average. It is given at schools in the US. GRE is a graduate entrance exam. Not required for AFI. Scoring in the 97th percentile means you are a very well spoken cinematographer.

Don't worry about having an ego. Every film school has people with egos (even AFI *gasp*).

As for having mediocre work, everyone on this forum has shown mediocre work. I have yet to see a short here that blew me away. We are all still learning. ;)

Good luck and maybe I'll see you Fall of 2013.
 
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Miguel if you checked off Certification in the application as opposed to the Master's Degree, then I am baffled at you not even being considered for an interview.

And yes, everyone has a huge ego, which leads to conflict with people who are in the ego race.

Mike.
 
The application deadline for the 2012-2013 academic year has been extended:

June 8
Cinematography

July 16
Editing
Producing
Production Design

Directing and Screenwriting are closed.
 

cinema334

New Member
what? I clearly stated in my posts on that thread that I needed film school because I lack something. I think AFI students, especially, are egotistical. I've been to a lot of parties and AFI sets and it seems they accept a bunch of big headed rich people who are able to finance the smaller amount of talented, level headed people. in all honesty i think that could be a good thing. most people in hollywood are like that and it's a reflection of the field, and you just may end up meeting the right person.
 

Miguel Angel

New Member
Freakyfreddy.
Thanks!.
That's my point, everybody has a lot of things to learn even when they are working!.
Cinema is one of those fields which offer too much to know in just 2 years.

I hope we could meet each other soon.

Filmikey.
I checked off Certification rather than Master's Degree.
As for the ego thing, in Spain, if you have "ego" when you are starting in the business.. you just do 2 films in 1, your first one and your last one ;).

As 2nd Camera Assistant I have seen a lot of quarrels between people just for that and it's a thing I don't like and I try to avoid.

I imagine that, of course, everybody has an ego (or pride) but there are egos and then there are egos.

Seven.
If it was for me, thanks! :D.


I will write a letter to them in a few days, I don't know what to say though!.

Best!!.
 
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Cher

New Member
Hi all, I just received a phone call for an interview with AFI next weds. I applied producing, would like to know some of the interview questions, ad prepare for them. Thanks.
 

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