UCLA MFA Directing/Production Fall 2022

Kai Luo

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No. That's not what you do in a treatment. Do not use any script terminology in a treatment. That defeats the purpose of a treatment.
A treatment is written like a novel. If you want to explain essential background, you need to do that through the story. Give a reason for this exposition to happen, through visuals, character action, character conversations, what have you. But you need to describe everything in prose. Do not use voiceover.
Online there exists James Cameron's original treatment for Terminator. I suggest you reference that.
Thank you so much!
 

cheeeese3cake

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No. That's not what you do in a treatment. Do not use any script terminology in a treatment. That defeats the purpose of a treatment.
A treatment is written like a novel. If you want to explain essential background, you need to do that through the story. Give a reason for this exposition to happen, through visuals, character action, character conversations, what have you. But you need to describe everything in prose. Do not use voiceover.
Online there exists James Cameron's original treatment for Terminator. I suggest you reference that.
Hello, I need to show a written note in my treatment and this is what I did: a sticky note on the door that reads “scallion pancake for dinner?” do you think this is okay? it is not a dialogue nor a v.o.
 

Joestar

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Good luck everyone!

Do you guys know if it's ok if I register a recommender, but their letter of recommendation comes in after the deadline? I know some universities are fine with this, but I don't know about UCLA.
 

weeblewobble18

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Hello, I need to show a written note in my treatment and this is what I did: a sticky note on the door that reads “scallion pancake for dinner?” do you think this is okay? it is not a dialogue nor a v.o.
There's plenty of quotes in the treatments I've seen. As long as all script terminology is removed, and it reads like you'd read a novel, that's fine.
The above link is also a good example to reference for those who are applying for film school. This was written by the Wachowski Sisters (brothers at the time) when they were pitching a take on a Batman movie.
Good luck.
 

VBM

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Hello, I was wondering what exactly everybody is including in their statement of purpose vs personal statement and whether there is any overlap? I'm finding writing two a bit hard :)
 

VBM

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Good luck everyone!

Do you guys know if it's ok if I register a recommender, but their letter of recommendation comes in after the deadline? I know some universities are fine with this, but I don't know about UCLA.
I think it has to be in by the deadline! Err on the side of caution :)
 

cheeeese3cake

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There's plenty of quotes in the treatments I've seen. As long as all script terminology is removed, and it reads like you'd read a novel, that's fine.
The above link is also a good example to reference for those who are applying for film school. This was written by the Wachowski Sisters (brothers at the time) when they were pitching a take on a Batman movie.
Good luck.
Thank you! This is very helpful :)
 

cheeeese3cake

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I think it has to be in by the deadline! Err on the side of caution :)
Good luck everyone!

Do you guys know if it's ok if I register a recommender, but their letter of recommendation comes in after the deadline? I know some universities are fine with this, but I don't know about UCLA.
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this is on the UCLA application, so I assume it should be fine?
 

cheeeese3cake

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Hello, I was wondering what exactly everybody is including in their statement of purpose vs personal statement and whether there is any overlap? I'm finding writing two a bit hard :)
in my SOP I sort of explained why I want to make films using three very short (cause the page limit) personal experiences, and what I hope to learn from the program.
In my PS, I answered the first question so I talked about how a personal experience motivates me to pursue a career in film.
also, none of the stories in my SOP & PS are related to film. idk if that would be okay but I am willing to bet on it that UCLA seeks different perspective :/

hope this helps and good luck :)
 

Batsy

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Good luck everyone!

Do you guys know if it's ok if I register a recommender, but their letter of recommendation comes in after the deadline? I know some universities are fine with this, but I don't know about UCLA.
Letters of Recommendation
Can I submit the application even though my recommenders haven't finished their letters?
Yes!
Be sure to submit your application by the deadline! Letters of recommendation and test scores can come in after submission.

This is pulled from the application portal's FAQ section.

Edit: Oops, I didn't notice someone had already posted this info. Ignore me 😆
 

emmk

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just finding this thread now after creating an account and learning that their application material requirements differ pretty drastically from what was listed on their website and instructional PDF?! i see some of you have already talked through this but man, was i just not looking in the right places or did everyone else get hit with a huge wtf when they learned they needed to submit a PS and SoP (both of which had a 500 word limit not listed on the instructions)? man this whiplash sucks
 

Chris W

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their application material requirements differ pretty drastically from what was listed on their website and instructional PDF?!
It's poorly worded but it's there:

Complete the UCLA Graduate Division Online Application.

That links to this:


Which reads:

Statement of Purpose​

Your statement of purpose will be used in conjunction with your application for consideration for graduate admission and financial support. Specific requirements (individual majors may have 500, 1,000 or 1,500 word limits; this information is in the application and on the each program’s website) and prompts are listed in the application and include

  • What is your purpose in applying for graduate study in your specified degree program? Describe your area(s) of interest, including any subfield(s) or interdisciplinary interests.
  • What experiences have prepared you for advanced study or research in this degree program? What relevant skills have you gained from these experiences? Have your experiences led to specific or tangible outcomes that would support your potential to contribute to this field?
  • What additional information about your past experience may aid the selection committee in evaluating your preparation and aptitude for graduate study at UCLA?
  • Why is the UCLA graduate program to which you are applying is the best place for you to pursue your academic goals? If you are applying for a research master’s or doctoral program, we encourage you to indicate specific research interests and potential faculty mentors.
  • What are your plans for your career after earning this degree?

Personal Statement​

The Personal Statement is an opportunity for you to provide additional information that may aid the selection committee in evaluating your preparation and aptitude for graduate study at UCLA. It will also be used to consider candidates for the Cota-Robles & GOFP fellowships. To be considered for a Cota-Robles or Graduate Opportunity fellowship, be sure to describe your contributions to diversity. The University of California Diversity Statement can be found online.

Instructions are provided in the application and include a 500 words limit (approximately 1-page, single spaced, using 1-inch margins and 12-point font) as well as these or other prompts:

  • Are there educational, personal, cultural, economic, or social experiences, not described in your Statement of Purpose, that have shaped your academic journey? If so, how? Have any of these experiences provided unique perspective(s) that you would contribute to your program, field or profession?
  • Describe challenge(s) or barriers that you have faced in your pursuit of higher education. What motivated you to persist, and how did you overcome them? What is the evidence of your persistence, progress or success?
  • How have your life experiences and educational background informed your understanding of the barriers facing groups that are underrepresented in higher education?
  • How have you been actively engaged (e.g., through participation, employment, service, teaching or other activities) in programs or activities focused on increasing participation by groups that have been historically underrepresented in higher education?
  • How do you intend to engage in scholarly discourse, research, teaching, creative efforts, and/or community engagement during your graduate program that have the potential to advance diversity and equal opportunity in higher education?
  • How do you see yourself contributing to diversity in your profession after you earn your advanced degree at UCLA?
 

emmk

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thanks
It's poorly worded but it's there:



That links to this:


Which reads:

Statement of Purpose​

Your statement of purpose will be used in conjunction with your application for consideration for graduate admission and financial support. Specific requirements (individual majors may have 500, 1,000 or 1,500 word limits; this information is in the application and on the each program’s website) and prompts are listed in the application and include

  • What is your purpose in applying for graduate study in your specified degree program? Describe your area(s) of interest, including any subfield(s) or interdisciplinary interests.
  • What experiences have prepared you for advanced study or research in this degree program? What relevant skills have you gained from these experiences? Have your experiences led to specific or tangible outcomes that would support your potential to contribute to this field?
  • What additional information about your past experience may aid the selection committee in evaluating your preparation and aptitude for graduate study at UCLA?
  • Why is the UCLA graduate program to which you are applying is the best place for you to pursue your academic goals? If you are applying for a research master’s or doctoral program, we encourage you to indicate specific research interests and potential faculty mentors.
  • What are your plans for your career after earning this degree?

Personal Statement​

The Personal Statement is an opportunity for you to provide additional information that may aid the selection committee in evaluating your preparation and aptitude for graduate study at UCLA. It will also be used to consider candidates for the Cota-Robles & GOFP fellowships. To be considered for a Cota-Robles or Graduate Opportunity fellowship, be sure to describe your contributions to diversity. The University of California Diversity Statement can be found online.

Instructions are provided in the application and include a 500 words limit (approximately 1-page, single spaced, using 1-inch margins and 12-point font) as well as these or other prompts:

  • Are there educational, personal, cultural, economic, or social experiences, not described in your Statement of Purpose, that have shaped your academic journey? If so, how? Have any of these experiences provided unique perspective(s) that you would contribute to your program, field or profession?
  • Describe challenge(s) or barriers that you have faced in your pursuit of higher education. What motivated you to persist, and how did you overcome them? What is the evidence of your persistence, progress or success?
  • How have your life experiences and educational background informed your understanding of the barriers facing groups that are underrepresented in higher education?
  • How have you been actively engaged (e.g., through participation, employment, service, teaching or other activities) in programs or activities focused on increasing participation by groups that have been historically underrepresented in higher education?
  • How do you intend to engage in scholarly discourse, research, teaching, creative efforts, and/or community engagement during your graduate program that have the potential to advance diversity and equal opportunity in higher education?
  • How do you see yourself contributing to diversity in your profession after you earn your advanced degree at UCLA?
thanks Chris for redirecting me to this! def poorly organized :(
i'm glad i got some clarity, though i'm still quite frustrated that this info wasn't consolidated under the PDF or on the program's "apply" site, especially bc the checklist on both take the time to single out the "Statement of Purpose" but not the Personal Statement, and neither has any mention of the 500 word limit (despite this site you redirected me to clearly saying, "(individual majors may have 500, 1,000 or 1,500 word limits; this information is in the application and on the each program’s website)" :( anyway, i know there's no use complaining--i just wanted to commiserate and see if anyone else ran into the same frustration. thanks for your response :)
 
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Chris W

Willem was robbed
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No worries! And yes I can see how it's frustrating. At least you're not finding out the day of the deadline.
 

cheeeese3cake

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just finding this thread now after creating an account and learning that their application material requirements differ pretty drastically from what was listed on their website and instructional PDF?! i see some of you have already talked through this but man, was i just not looking in the right places or did everyone else get hit with a huge wtf when they learned they needed to submit a PS and SoP (both of which had a 500 word limit not listed on the instructions)? man this whiplash sucks
I have emailed UCLA a couple of time and only PS has a 500 word limit; SoP is either 500 words or 2 pages.
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so if your SoP is more than 500 words just upload it as a supporting document

it is def organized poorly and it is frustrating that they only confirmed they are taking in new applicants 1 month before the ddl
good luck!
 

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cheeeese3cake

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There's plenty of quotes in the treatments I've seen. As long as all script terminology is removed, and it reads like you'd read a novel, that's fine.
The above link is also a good example to reference for those who are applying for film school. This was written by the Wachowski Sisters (brothers at the time) when they were pitching a take on a Batman movie.
Good luck.
thank you very much!! this is very helpful
 

Chris W

Willem was robbed
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There's plenty of quotes in the treatments I've seen. As long as all script terminology is removed, and it reads like you'd read a novel, that's fine.
The above link is also a good example to reference for those who are applying for film school. This was written by the Wachowski Sisters (brothers at the time) when they were pitching a take on a Batman movie.
Good luck.
Neat! Can you add it to our new Treatment section?

 
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