which MFA has the strongest screenwriting program?

c-kat

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Hi,

I just finished a one year grad certificate in scritwriting here in Canada and now want to take an MFA in screenwriting. I have two goals: 1) to continue learning the writing craft and 2) to make contacts - the school I went to is in a province with absolutely no film center whatsoever.

I have seen lots of discussions on her as to which schools are best. They all seem to have different strengths. Which MFA's are best for focusing on screenwriting rather than directing or producing?

Thanks,

C
 
The screenwriting program at USC is not very good. There are relatively few screenwriting classes and most of the production and technical aspects of filmmaking classes are not available to screenwriting majors. As a result screenwriting majors wind up taking a lot of critical study courses. The school doesn't do much to promote their screenwriting students. The students do much of their own work in pitching their screenplays to the industry, unlike the production side. The Stark and Production departments host lectures by visiting filmmakers, while the screenwriting program rarely sees visits by top screenwriters.
 
Loophole DA, I think you must have USC confused with another program.

As someone who's just finished the first year of the MFA, perhaps I can offer some accurate assessments.

Few Screenwriting Classes:

False.

You're taking at least two, no more than three writing classes every semester. There are also scene seminars and re-writing classes, as well. They're all very intense courses, so they don't want you taking too many at once.

Few Filmmaking Classes Are Available, So Screenwriters Take a Lot of Critical Studies Courses:

False.

It's a two year program. Personally, I'm stretching it out to three in order to focus on my film portfolio under the Writer Director track, because I want nothing to affect my focus on my thesis script this year. All Screenwriting students take 507, which is Production 1, editing, and directing actors. The rest go under electives, and aren't required nor impossible.

As for critical studies, we are required to take 6 credits (two classes). Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, "winds up" taking any more than is required of them.

The School Doesn't Promote Its Students, So They're On Their Own With The Industry:

False.

Just as Production has First Look, USC's writing program has First Pitch and the Script List.

Yes, the writer has to pitch their scripts all alone, like in the real world, but the university packs the industry people in at the First Pitch events so they'll have a chance to pitch to someone who will actually listen. The script list and First Pitch result in sales, meetings, representation, and new gigs every year. The school also trains students on pitching and the industry in general.

Rarely Host Lectures By Top Screenwriters:

False.

It's at this point I must ask you where you're getting your information. The "Conversations with..." series, almost every Friday, provides an intimate discussion period with top screenwriters.

This year included Mark Fergis (Children of Men), Julie Traymor (Across the Universe), Jerry Staahl (CSI, and Permanent Midnight is based on him), the dudes who did 3:10 to Yuma, and those are the ones that spring to mind. You can find the podcasts of them on the writing department's website.

Also, a new series was endowed by the Jackie Oakie foundation this year, call "Master Screenwriters." The first guest was James L. Brooks. It was a five hour event, where he chatted with our department chair (who wrote Top Gun and Dick Tracy, among other films), screened some of his favorite work, and answered a ton of questions.

Also, our events are open to the rest of the cinema school. The majority of the Stark and PR speakers are within class times, and not open to the SCA public.

Some other great advantages of USC's program (beyond the obvious) are the fact that the writing program isn't just about writing a feature screenplay...if that's what you want to do, you are more than welcome to run with it, but you can also focus on television- one hour drama, half-hour comedy, sketch comedy-, animation, video games, or interactive media such as mobisodes or web content.

Also, you get myriad opportunities to collaborate with both producing and production students to see your work produced from script to screen, where several other programs either isolate you from the other disciplines completely, or make you work for them, instead of with them.
 
Excepting the first sentence, I believe Loophole's post is a series of quotes from "Film School Confidential." I remember reading those same things. I assume they must have been true at one time.

What struck me as most peculiar about FSC's depiction of USC screenwriting was that those qualities it identified as weaknesses--promotional failures, a lack of production classes, crit studies overload--were the exact weaknesses I'd seen in OTHER screenwriting programs which were, uniquely, NON-problems at USC.

One thing I *have* noticed about USC's SW program is that it's in constant flux--more so than similar programs at UCLA or AFI. My class, for instance, is in for an unpleasant surprise: we will have watered-down screenwriter-only 507 classes. This was allegedly due to "popular demand." Maybe it's for the best. We'll see.

In other news, Columbia should be on any "best-of" screenwriting list.

--IA
 
Mea Culpa. My post was based on information from a good friend who obtained a Screenwriting MFA from USC a few years ago. Looks like things have changed for the better.

I totally agree with Icarus that Columbia should be on the "best of" screenwriting list.
 
Columbia University should be at the top of everyone's Screenwriting MFA list. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's...just my opinion...I'm biased...I wanna go there!

Hey so you wanna read my undergraduate personal essay? I could use some feedback.
 
This topic might have been better served if asked which SW program should I NOT go to. Everyone here will be biased towards their school's.

The programs I've heard or experieinced good things about are "Columbia, Chapman, and USC.

Though, yes USC and Chapman's programs are generally a little biased towards production SW also have access to work on other areas and this DEFINATELY does not mean the SW faculty are any less stellar than the production faculty. It also means more likely to have shorts produced. At Chapman, at least 1 film you write will be produced your second year. In both cases the writing faculty and students are tops as well. If you want a more industry focus on writing-- go there.

Columbia is very story driven, but not known for their access to equipment. If you are only writing driven, this may in fact be a better school. They do do production, but not on the same scale as the previous two, and they tend to focus on a more independent style.

The school's not listed I haven't heard much about that makes me feel the need to suggest them. Mainly that comes from SW being separated from the rest of their film students. But, again, everything here is a generalization and not true for every individual experiencing the program.

My advice: Visit the schools and email the faculty and current students. You'll know that way where you fit in! Good luck!
 
Thank you for the replies.

What about Boston? I noticed that no one has mentioned that school?

What about Cal Northridge? Is it crappy because it is an MA as opposed to an MFA?
 
Originally posted by Winterreverie:
The programs I've heard or experieinced good things about are "Columbia, Chapman, and USC.

Three schools? Hmmm.... I'm sure there are more than that...

AFI, UCLA...

but I guess those aren't worth mentioning?

(P.S. You spelled experienced wrong)
 
Why do you always want to cause fights? Seriously? You're like the student films terrorist.

No, I don't endorse AFI or UCLA screenwriting programs-- I haven't been a part of them, nor know anyone I trust who is. And it would be ridiculous of me to endorse something I don't have experience with.

You also posted three schools so get off your damn high horse and stop trying to stalk me on this site.
 
I totally agree with Winter. Bandar thinks he knows everything. If someone doesn't agree with his narrow vision of the world, he comes out with his flame thrower.

Why point out that someone misspelled a word, when it's an obvious typo? That's so immature.
 
Winter,

I simply stated that you left out two of the best Screenwriting programs in the world, and you go ahead and call me a Student films terrorist? Thanks for that stereotypical and racist comment. You represent Chapman extremely well. And sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody is stalking you.

Loophole, narrow vision of the world? This is a public forum, and people respond to others posts. If you're offended, then maybe you shouldn't be on this site.

Back to c-kat's post. I haven't really heard anything about Cal Northridge, but I heard good things about Northwestern's screenwriting program as well. Check it out along with the others that were mentioned on this post.
 
I must say, folks, the "ignore all posts by this user" feature is pretty darn cool on this site, y'all...it works on pesky, vitriolic, and unhelpful posts.

I've been using it for awhile now; it works well, and I'm a fan.


PS...Loophole, no worries...when did your friend graduate? I only ask because First Pitch is in its seventh year and the script list has been around since the early nineties...the first-ever issue resulted in John Singleton selling "Boyz In The Hood."

I'm curious about such things, what can I say?
 
PS, Icarus...

Stark students will be in your 507 with you, and that's one of the most significant cross discipline networks to make.

I think our class is a big part of why they're changing things...we apparently took 507 more seriously than other writing classes, some at the detriment of our writing classes.

The writers usually just phone it in because it's pass-fail, but we were all crazy intense with it. I know of people skipping writing classes to edit or shoot, and the professors got fed up with it...I remember getting a mass email that said, "YOU CAME HERE TO WRITE!"

You can take other PR electives if you want...I know I'll be taking another 16mm and another digital class.
 
Originally posted by LoopholeDa:
I totally agree with Winter. Bandar thinks he knows everything. If someone doesn't agree with his narrow vision of the world, he comes out with his flame thrower.

You're right, Loophole. Bandar thinks he knows everything, and god it is so freaking annoying. 'Cause after all he's only been signed up to direct a movie next summer with a seven-digit budget, with actors you've only ever dreamed of meeting. His view of the world certainly is narrow, having only been to Ireland, France, U.K., Scotland, Spain, Italy, Finland, Greece, Germany, and Portugal, to name but a few places. He certainly doesn't know much about filmmaking, either, not with his meager acting and directing experiences--I mean, come on, his latest short film's only been accepted to the Vegas and Cannes film festivals recently! That's nothing! Not even worth mentioning. It's the dirt beneath your toes, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, it's pretty obvious from your condescension that you're generally a much better and well-rounded person than Bandar. That's why you're going to Chapman, right?
 
Please, all moderators, do not try to shut down this flame war. This is Act II of studentfilms.com! All relevant information about film school has been thoroughly exposited over the last several years (Act I), and now Complications Are Ensuing.

Act III, of course, will be the Final Showdown, so you might want to up your insurance.

--IA
 
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