Which schools are the top 5?

It might do us all good to remember that we are each representatives of our schools-to-be.

Acting like an asshat on the forums only makes people think that your school is full of asshats.

--Icarus
 
Anton is talking a funny game about losers trolling the board for somebody who posted his own top 5 list with the same generic schools that everybody else uses.
I think maybe he got mad that I put his school at #5?
What the hell do I know?
Let's all just try to take it easy.
 
Hello All,

This is my first post and more than likely my last.

Look, I am embarrassed at the fact that you all are going to be my peers and potential film partners in years to come. All the arguments and put downs are not enjoyable or helpful to read. I assume the point of this forum is to inform others on the aspects of film schools, and to "help" each other gain an education that is going to enable them to tell stories.

However, all that has been discussed in the past two years on this site is which school is best. WHO GIVES A ****? (Sorry for the caps FLFLMGUY or whatever your name is). The school is not going to make you successful. Neither is putting each other and each other's potential schools down on this site. So, lets stop and concentrate on the positive.

So, in response to the top five, I will list what I know.

First, UCLA. Great Instructors, Worked on Thesis films there. An incredible program. Best in Los Angeles for the money. Had instructors that were graduates of the program. Very impressive and knowledgeable of directing as well as the aesthetics of film production.

AFI, worked on their films as well. Great funding, and great immersion into total hollywood style film making. Bring your check book;).

USC, #1, just had to add that even though I don't believe it to be true. But, USC George Lucas Numero Uno, Yeah Bra!!! Anyways, all grads I know are financially doing well. However, owning rights to your own film, as well as directing it would have been cool.


Cal Arts, Great Instructors. I have had many
Cal Arts instructors. They are very Legit when it comes to production as well as direction. Seen some good student **** from here! Don't underestimate the school next to Six Flags!

Columbia, been here and I dig the intimacy of the department. Super small on the third floor of an IVY league contender. Great faculty, and a huge emphasis on the craft of story telling. Make sure you keep your connections open at NYU in order to get your piece "in the can." The actual production resources are scant. But, who cares?

NYU, Legit. Great location, facilities, equipment, and faculty. The most diverse that I have seen at all the programs. Who knows, maybe you are the next Jarmusch;).

Oh yeah, and Chapman, well this makes 7. Whatever, so...Chapman. Ok, I spent a lot of time in "the OC" as a kid. So, I would never go to the school while living "in" Orange. However, if you lived in San Clemente, O-side, or even in LA it may be bearable. And Chapman is a great film school Bra. The facilities are sick. Also, the equipment is second to none Bra ha ha.

Alright, so all of the schools are good in some ways. And if I forgot to mention a school, it does not mean that "it's not worth mentioning." I would never be a tool bag and say that. Anyhow, all the schools are legit. Some are not that appealing in my eyes. But, that is my narrow mined ass biased opinion. But, If I was forced to go to one of those I would make the best of it knowing that my talent is going getting me places, not a strip of paper from UCLAAFICHAPMANCOLUMBIAUSCNYUCALARTS. Please quit this pointless argument. I think I am going to go send a roll through my bolex. You all should do the same. Or, your Dvx-100b, HVX, arri, cp-16, or whatever it is you use. That's a whole other discussion ha ha.

So, in closing, I will be joining some of you at one of the "top 5" schools this fall. I would say which one, but that would be so unoriginal. I did notice that most of your favorite schools are the ones you got accepted to. That is pretty lame. But, it is human nature to compromise and love only what you are able to achieve.

Well, have a good evening everybody! Oh yeah, I thought the "ASS HAT comment was a bit funny." Lastly, lets "help" each other and get away from the idea of the "top five."

Later Dayz,

Lasserta
 
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Despite the kind of self-righteous preamble, I heartily agree with Lasserta's point. The ranking of a film school is in and of itself inconsequential. This aint an MBA or law degree. Its all about nurturing your talent and proceeding from there to produce the best work you can. You need to know the specifics of the programs, not a meaningless rank number, to determine if its the best place for you to grow, learn, and explore.
 
Joke Buddy ha ha, laugh it off. "Just stating the truth."

Really though, Don't take offense.

Oh, and good luck with your critiques;).
 
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Just as law schools have Harvard and business schools have Wharton, and med schools have Johns Hopkins (or whatever), football players dream of Ohio State and basketball players dream of Duke, there will always be the known schools, the brands.

But does it matter if you're not making the most of it?

Plenty of successes come out of all the programs mentioned, whether they're marquee names or Oscar winners, ghostwriters or well paid focus pullers ;).

The reality is, the likelihood of becoming the former is slim. So slim. Whether you go to a so-called top five or take night classes at Paducah City College, which may or may not even be a real school, or don't go to film school at all.

It's what YOU do. It's what's IN you, and finding the right path to help you tap that well, and refine your skills in conveying your visual stories.

To assume some arbitrary list that someone else generated applies to everyone is to assume we are all the same.

So, use a list as a guideline to spark your interest, but for the sake of all that you or others consider to be holy and or sacred, don't stop there.


As for the wack behavior popping up, it's really icky.

I found this site last year because I googled "interview at AFI." It was amazing to find a network of people chasing the same dream and suffering the same anticipation and agony.

I'm still here because I want to help others. I think it's important. It's not law school, b-school, or med school. It's not an athletic program. Film school, just like film school applicants, is about something numbers can't define. The people factor. So there are several of us, from different schools, who actually go there or graduated, who try to clue people in to those aspects of the program you won't read about on their websites, or in that eighth of a page US News and World Report squeezes in between med school and law school each year.

That's what it's about.

But it saddens me most to see all the posturing and dissing of schools that's here these days. It goes against the spirit of this site. We didn't do that last year, and it SUCKS.

It's unnecessary, and as Icarus noted, it's asshat behavior.

Arrogance is unattractive at all times, folks.

Film school will knock that right out of you, though. Give it time.


And for those beginning the application process, remember...there are hundreds of film programs in this world. Find the right one for you.

Best,

Jayimess
 
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agreed agreed agreed. i love those moments when asses get handed back to owners, at times mine included. As much as I do feel like it's "bad" to rank, school name still plays a huge part in people's decisions. I made the mistake of going for name in undergrad and ended up pretty disappointed. I just feel like your personality will mesh with a certain school, who cares how long they've been around or what name they boast. Just keep in mind that the ivy league started because a bunch of schools sharing the same geography happened to all have ivy growing on their walls and played football together. Doesn't that notion put 'prestigious' name into perspective?
 
no disrespect fellas,

just breaking some ice here!

as Chris Walkin wood say

is someone being a Stiffy Stifferson!!!!

relax,

once more apologies to those offended!
 
hope those who want to ask serious questions on this forum, start asking serious questions.

not "which school has a golden door handle for your asshat".

......

So I will start a new discussion
 
When assessing the "top 5", what are the parameters? Success rate of students? Alumni working in their chosen field? Money made by the institution of "higher learning"?

In my mind, school needs to fit the individual. There are some great schools I simply looked past because it wouldn't have been a good fit for me. That's not saying I'm too good, or that the school is lame. Or vice versa. It was simply better for to apply where I did.

Just a thought.
 
That's just funny! Everybody just picks up his film school as the best. Moreover, I am sick with all these questions about top film schools, which have already been asked thousand times don't make sense. But as everybody here I have my own question.

My question is, what do all of these top film schools like USC, UCLA, Chapman and AFI (and others) look for in applicant? I mean who do they usually accept and why? What do they focus on? Is it applicant's resume and background full of hands-on experience and awards for the achievements in his study field? Or maybe his personality? His academic background or internships number? I am asking this question considering the fact that I am interested in Producing, but when it comes to application procedure it doesn't relally matter. Just wonder how producers get into schools and why :)
 
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I think different schools look for different things. USC probably focuses more on academics (i.e. GPAs and GRE scores) than most schools. AFI looks for prior film experience more than grades. Chapman is a mixed bag, but I've learned that the average age of students in their graduate program is lower than that of AFI. I can only speak more for these last two schools since I'm spent countless hours comparing them in every way possible for their producing programs.
 
Redpokie's right. My stats sucked.

I got into USC/UCLA/AFI.

With little experience.

It's what you show creatively. It's potential, nothing more.

3.27/1290:5.

The first act of the first feature I ever wrote.


It's not experience. It's not numerals.

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY WANT.
 
^^^

LOL! Maybe it's writing samples/essays/personal statements stuff? Or how ambitious you are?

I think they base their opinion about applicants on their pros and cons summerizing all point of portfolio and application. I mean if student has average GPA and not bad test scores, intersting writing samples, resume with potential and he passed interview without any problems, than he deserves to be accepted. It's just how I assume this.

From what I remember reading here, film schools reqire from their applicants (I am talking about producers only) an experience gained from internships and corporative achievement, as these play very important role to determine how good a student may be for his job.

Dunno.
 
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