What you make of it

[matt]

Hello. Me and my buddy were talking about schools and in subjects like film, isnt it a lot of what you make of it? I mean most schools (should) be able to teach you technicalities just the same, but nobody can teach you creativity and originality. Granted im sure some proffesors are much better at seeing potential and pointing people in the right direction, but I go to a state school in new jersey (william paterson) and while we dont have a film program that people come from california to take advantage of, we have the equiptment and two excellent professors. Sure, i'd love to go to NYU (mainly because manhattan is awesome) but I dont have that money. But I believe that a talented person will be able to thrive wherever he/she is. Does anyone agree with me?

Grilled Cheese

 

[matt]

Hello. Me and my buddy were talking about schools and in subjects like film, isnt it a lot of what you make of it? I mean most schools (should) be able to teach you technicalities just the same, but nobody can teach you creativity and originality. Granted im sure some proffesors are much better at seeing potential and pointing people in the right direction, but I go to a state school in new jersey (william paterson) and while we dont have a film program that people come from california to take advantage of, we have the equiptment and two excellent professors. Sure, i'd love to go to NYU (mainly because manhattan is awesome) but I dont have that money. But I believe that a talented person will be able to thrive wherever he/she is. Does anyone agree with me?

Grilled Cheese

 

[Rebirth of Cool Returns]

If you got skill then you can do anything. Yeah, I agree with you to some extent.

 

[TizzyEntertainment]

Its absolutley what you make of it. There are plenty of kids graduating from the top 3, who will never go anywhere, and even more who dont take advantage of the resources provided them. It has ben my experience that you are alot freeier at a small school. If your ambitious you can usually flourish.
R. M.

"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans

 

[Mcrukker]

Granted there are great advantages in those bigger schools in terms of getting exposure and even recognition, since most have regular screenings and events. But the price is absurd!

State schools are great as well but its more on you to make the most out of it. The teachers are more likley to let you slide and there is usually an air of self deprication among the students and faculty. At least that was my experience; I went to a junior college for a year and now attend (a way too expensive) private school for their film program. The major difference is the creative climate as I tend to learn alot from fellow students more so than the ones at the junior college, Big fish little pond kinda stuff.

But you are absolutly right it's 100% what you make of it, especially in somthing as subjective as film. Finished product is king (demo reel or film), not the name on the degree. Hell many great directors were college dropouts!

 

[Forsakenproductions]

Hey guys, just registered great to be here.

Well, I gotta say that there are two sides to every coin. Film schools tend to be more stiff and want you to make their movie and not your own.

However, they do got the supplies. So it depends on what your looking for. To have the latest equipment, or to be free to express through new experimentations with editing, cameraing, and the such.

"What are you doing?"
"Oh . . .uh . . .nothin"

 

[HBKDinobot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kubrick77=arsehole:
they better have the fukkin supplies for the amount of money yer wasting on tuition and lab fees.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, education is a waste of money. The problem with this world is too many people are being educated. It's a freaking waste.

You must be a republican.

 

[HBKDinobot]

The problem with most of you people is that education has to equate to making lots of money. That's the problem with people in America. They only go to college so they can make lots of money. That's why there are so many freaking useless business and computer majors with no direction. You want to get into the film business to make lots of money? Be rich and famous?... Good luck because you are going to need it. Why? Because most of the people who think like that have no imagination, no heart, no fortitude for the entertainment world. Education is for personal development. Its for doing something that you want to do in your life. Its not about making lots of money. If you are in it for that you are in it for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Hoeks]

I totally agree with the post above

 

[Mcrukker]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HBKDinobot:
That's the problem with people in America. They only go to college so they can make lots of money.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's a pretty unfair characterization of American students, but I will admit that unless you are independently wealthy, money will be an issue for anyone who pays rent or likes to eat; american or not.

You sound like someone living off mom and dad. What's the problem with wanting a career in film, to get paid doing what you love? But you sound like you're ABOVE making a living that its not something you worry about, so I guess you're already all set. I see unwatchable arthouse vanity projects in your future. But for the rest of us trying to pay rent, we need school to learn the craft and hopefully get some steady work; while your living in mom and dads basement working on your next Lynch inspired epic starrring your cat and a box of dryer sheets.

Just kidding man, I actually agree with you on the fact that kids in school should be there to expand their creativity, not just get the degree but in the real world you can't be so quick to take money off the table.


The truth is the name of the school won't matter its the fact that your are able to complete somthing like a four year or even two year degree. It shows dedication and drive.

 

[HBKDinobot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mcrukker:
You sound like someone living off mom and dad. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I am paying for USC all by my lonesome. I did receive a grant, but I should be pretty deep in debt by the time I'm done. My parents are not involved what so ever and I have spent the last two years working and going to school full time, so I understand that you could come to that assumption by what I wrote, but you know what they say about people who make assumptions

Anyway, If you can make lots of money doing what you love then I say that's great, you can have your cake and eat it too. WHAT I am saying is that it should not be the driving factor in deciding what you want to major in. That's the whole point, A lot and LOT of people get into the film business for the sole fact that they want to become rich and famous. Money isn't everything, although don't get me wrong I wouldn't pass up money if someone wanted to give me it. But, if that's all someone wants out of life, that is pretty uninspiring as I am sure their films will be as well.