Choosing between NYU Tisch, Columbia, AFI, and USC for MFA Directing — would love input from anyone who's been through these programs

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking on this forum for a while and finally have something worth posting about. I'm based in Athens, finishing up my undergrad, and I've just received acceptances to four MFA Directing programs in the US: NYU Tisch, Columbia, AFI Conservatory, and USC School of Cinematic Arts. I have until mid-April to decide and I'm genuinely torn, so I'd love to hear from anyone who has real experience with these programs, especially if you've attended one of them.

A bit about my background

I didn't study film as an undergrad. Alongside my degree, I've been making films independently: I've directed three short films that have screened at international festivals. I've also spent several years working professionally in the film industry, as an assistant director on large-scale productions including a Netflix series, and as an assistant to a couple established directors across narrative and commercial work. I've been deeply embedded in the independent film world for a while now.

So I'm not coming to an MFA as a complete beginner. I know how sets work, I've been in the room when funding decisions are made, and I've navigated the festival circuit. But I'm also aware of exactly what I don't yet have.

Why I want to do an MFA at all

II want to be transparent about this because I think it's relevant to which program makes sense for me. My goal is to make films as a writer-director, my own scripts, or adaptations I develop myself. The directors I look up to most are people like PTA, Wes Anderson, Lanthimos, Fincher, Villeneuve Haneke, etc. filmmakers who have a distinct visual and thematic signature, who work across both the festival world and general audiences, and who have built careers on authorship rather than assignment. That's the kind of filmmaker I want to be.

I want to make primarily English-language films. And I'm being honest with myself about why I want an MFA, it's more than one thing. First, craft: despite having made films and worked professionally, I'm conscious of the gaps in my own work. I want dedicated time and structure to develop as a director, to be challenged, to fail in a safe environment, to work with faculty who can push my visual language and storytelling in ways that are hard to access when you're always in production mode. Second, the business side genuinely matters to me too. Understanding how to develop and package projects, navigate the American industry, build relationships with producers and financiers. I don't want to just make great films; I want to build a sustainable career around them. And third, I'll be honest, the MFA is my entry point into the American film ecosystem. Without it, I simply wouldn't have the network, the industry access, or the legitimate foothold in the US market that makes that kind of career viable. Film school, for me, is a strategic move as much as an educational one.

Please don't suggest I skip film school or spend the tuition on making films, I've already secured funding to cover tuition, so the financial calculus here is really just about cost of living differences between New York and LA. The real question is purely about which program best sets me up for the career I described.

A honest caveat about film school in general

I'm also aware that film school, any film school, is unlikely to be the thing that makes or breaks a directing career. The directors I admire didn't necessarily succeed because of where they studied, and I don't have any illusions that a degree from one of these programs automatically opens doors. That said, for someone in my position, coming from outside the US, without an existing American network, the question of which program carries the most weight and prestige within the industry does matter to me, at least at the margins. Which of these four schools do people in the industry actually recognize and respect? Is there a meaningful hierarchy in terms of how alumni are perceived when they're starting out?

What I'm actually asking

If you went to any of these programs, or know people who did: does any of this match your experience? Are there things about these programs that aren't obvious from the outside? For the kind of career I described (author-driven, English-language, with ambitions for both critical and commercial reach) does one of these feel like a significantly better fit?

And if you're an alum of any of these four programs and are open to chatting, please feel free to DM me. I'd genuinely love to hear from you directly.

Thanks so much in advance.
 
I also got acceptance to Columbia. If you want to be a writer-director, focusing on authorship, I will recommend NYU or Columbia. And I think you should check how they train students. As I know, NYU pays more attention on visual practices while Columbia focus on the story at the beginning. Actually, you can ask Gemini or Chatgpt about their differences and you can also check how their aluminis work in the industry.
I'm interested in your experiences, can you add me on instagram? My account is lulu4eva_
 
Congratulations on your acceptance at Columbia. I hope they gave you a solid scholarship too, the last thing you want is to be thinking about money when you should be focused on the work.

I can definitely confirm that storytelling comes first there. As Eric Mendelsohn used to say, Columbia is “the story school.” That said, NYU teaches that as well, they would not be turning out so many great filmmakers otherwise. I would also recommend the American Film Institute Conservatory, though in my consulting work I have seen slightly less support there than in the past; along with Chapman, LMU, ArtCenter, CalArts, and UT Austin, all great schools.

On authorship, just keep in mind that filmmakers like Paul Thomas Anderson, Wes Anderson, Yorgos Lanthimos, David Fincher, Denis Villeneuve, and Michael Haneke all had to justify their budgets with real returns. Film at scale is one of the few creative fields where you have to think about an audience in a very concrete way, especially now with consolidation and competition.

It’s something schools do not really teach, but it matters. How you execute your vision while keeping the market in mind. Are you telling a story that has not been told in the way you can tell it, and can you produce it within the budget allowed. Compromise comes into play as well, casting, location, and who the film is for. It is rare to get a no-strings-attached commitment at scale unless you are financing it yourself.

That said, I am biased toward Columbia as an alum. One thing I have seen with emerging filmmakers is the belief that the school will make them, when in reality it comes down to how they shape the path ahead. The school helps, but in the end it is your storytelling ability in concert with your visual choices, your vision, your drive, and your openness to working in partnership.

Here's an interview that I did that might help answer some questions too: Zeno (Columbia University MFA '24) on Storytelling and the Power of Networking (Part 1)
 
If you really want to focus on directing, USC is not the school for you. With your experience you may be frustrated there because they really want to teach filmmaking from the ground level and they don’t have a very specific directing track that guarantees you getting to focus on it. They want you to be well rounded and try to emphasize hard skills that you can leave with to work in the industry while you’re building to a career around the soft skills. Choose USC if you want very solid networking access, want to learn more about producing, want to access/take great writing classes, want to learn more about tv, want access to facilities and classes that focus on emerging technologies (LED wall, mo-cap, virtual filmmaking, AI, etc.). Don’t go to USC if you want to be a writer director like the men you described, you will most likely feel frustrated in the way they run the program.
 
Mostly will speak to AFI, but did want to echo the above with USC. They wont guarantee you a thesis so there is a chance that you pay all that money and don’t get to direct a project that can help be your career calling card out of school. That said they have great resources.

AFI is a great school despite some current institutional turmoil. I don't think it may be the best fit for you and your goals though. Much of the work you will be doing as a director will be focused only on that and not on writing. Despite having a reputation for producing auteurs it is not a particularly auteur friendly program. Most people who really dislike the program are those who came in expecting to write and direct all their own work. This is not the reality. You will write one cycle film, but even then you're expected to collaborate with a writer through the development process. Theres a chance for thesis that you write the script, but no guarantee as it is selected by a committee anonymously. So, if your scripts are not selected you will have to make someone else’s. People who are not a fan feel this is filmmaking by committee. I have my own feelings on all of this that basically boils down to it being good to learn how to direct other people’s material, but since your goal is to write and direct I do caution you that AFI takes the lines between disciplines pretty seriously with not a ton of development outside of that role, but there is some.

It is a great program that will absolutely help you fill the gaps you feel, and make you a better filmmaker, but it might feel dissatisfying to you if you’re deeply invested in writing all of your own work.
 
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