USC Film Production for Fall 2011

Originally posted by Anomen1985:
jamesc - what do you think of USC MFA Film Production vs AFI's MFA Directing program? i'm pretty torn between the two...

Hey Anomen. Before I delve into my personal opinion, just FYI, I have two friends currently enrolled for USC MFA MPT and have spoken at length with several others who've graduated. I've met and lunched with three graduated AFI students (2 directors, 1 cinematographer) during film fests and have a close friend who graduated with an MFA in Editing who is now making six figures working on features and television. So my advice comes from those limited sources :)

I view USC MFA as a general filmmaking course. During the orientation, they re-affirmed this as they want all their filmmakers to be well rounded and so you'll get your hands dirty doing a bit of everything. This works really well for some people, but not as well for others.

USC is also incredibly competitive and I'd say 80-90% of the students entering want to be a Director, but only 20-30% will end up directing their Thesis. The remainder need to either pivot and focus on something else (editing, sound, etc.) or ... be stuck. There are a lot of competitions at the school (i.e. screenplay competitions, pitches, etc.) and you really are fighting for talent and production funds from your fellow students. I wouldn't call it cut-throat, but I'd say you should be ready to fight your way to the top. The upside is that if you do come out on top, you can rest assured that you are damn good :).


AFI is much more specialized. Directors focus on the directing track, Cinematographers on cinematography, Editors on editing. Because of that, competition isn't quite as fierce and everyone always is on course to become great at what they're passionate about. Thus, rounding up people for thesis is a bit more balanced as everyone already has their roles established. On top of that, if you're a director, you get to focus on just that, Directing. The directors and cinematographers I've met at festivals are all working in the industry, and I've heard an AFI degree carries a lot of weight in the industry.

At then end of the day, a degree from either school is highly prestigious and both will open a lot of doors for you as a filmmaker. The rest will depend on your personal drive and ambitions.

I would personally pick USC over AFI because I grew up playing sports and like the thrill of competition. But seeing as how I didn't apply to AFI and I'm most likely receiving my rejection letter in the mail from USC in an hour, I don't have the luxury of such a choice ;)
 
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I copied and pasted below what I have on USC page:

"Your file has been forwarded to the academic department for review and an admission decision. You may check this system periodically for updates, and if the academic department requires additional information or renders an admission decision, you will be contacted."
 
Still nothing in my mailbox, for any who may care to know lol

I agree that it would have been better if they had sent out the acceptance and rejection EMAILS at the same time.

BUT, I'm not on the faculty or admissions panels at USC and I don't know what is required for them to process things and get them out in a timely manner. Therefore, I give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to informing us.

....but snail mail?
 
jamesc - thanks for the rundown on the two schools. i'm so confused - i already have an undergraduate degree in film from nyu, so AFI's more specialized tracks seem very attractive, but then again, USC is USC..
 
I've been told to wait for one/two weeks for final decisions. At first I was told to check my mail-box for their mail, when I said I didn't receive any I was asked to wait. ****ing frikking me out.

How many of you have received notification in the last two day?
 
I could be wrong, but I think theres something very telling in a post that I believe I read in the accepted students forum. One of the people posted that they got a letter saying that their acceptance is contingent upon getting a receipt from admissions which they should have received by march 4th. They are also having a mandatory admitted students day on April 8th. I feel like they probably sent the acceptance letters out already so that people could start making plans...
 
I doubt the person who I talked to knew too much. I was asked to check my (e) mail box, only when I said I didn't receive any mail from them I was asked to wait for one-two weeks for decisions (didn't clarify whether snail or e; though it was added later that being an international applicant chances are there I would receive an e-mail).

My application status is still that fkn we are reviewing your application ****!!

Best luck to you guys ..
 
Aglick has an extremely valid point. Would anyone care to call them up & ask if they are done with sending acceptance mails. By the way 10 days ago I was told that all the decisions have been made.

Anyway now I'm stuck with this, in all probability I didn't even make it, to make the matter even worse I've a series of extremely important works lined up. But guess what, I just can't fkn concentrate .. JUST FKN CANT ...
 
Hey Everyone,

Received an email from USC at 10:00am PST. I've been waitlisted for Fall!!! Hooray! I thought for sure I'd be getting my rejection letter snail mail today.

I cannot log into the camel link (since I'm waitlisted), had heard nothing back from them at all and my online status hasn't changed. So hopefully there's good news left for others who are waiting :)

Finally... I can say I've been accepted to USC :)
 
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Congrats jamesc. Like everyone else has commented before me, its good to know that you were accepted after all of your helpful contributions via postings. Live it up.
 
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